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Skycap

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Feb 20, 2005, 11:29 AM

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Not sure if this is the place for this, but I have questions about the original Tower program. I've been making some new airports for it and they're all working great except for a couple of points. My planes are not calling for clearance but instead, taxiing onto the runway. Also, my runway intersections are not allowing planes to turn off before reaching the end. I have a test of KBGR with it's 11440 foot runway and everything taxiis all the way to the end after landing.

Someone on SimRadar posted a page on adding airports to Tower. Anyone have his email? I'd like to pick his brain a bit! (Ha!)

Too bad someone doesn't make an AFCAD style program to draw the airports with. That would make it easy for anyone to design their own airports.

Thanks!
http://www.fscommercialpilot.com


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Feb 20, 2005, 7:12 PM

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trutta

You can contact him via private message here in the simradar forums.


Skycap

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Feb 21, 2005, 3:45 PM

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Thanks dude!

By the way, if anyone else is interested, or has any ideas, I have a website up here: http://www.geocities.com/baotower

Thanks again! Hope MAI Tower gets finished off soon. Looks good!
http://www.fscommercialpilot.com

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Skycap

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I'm very close to completing KPHX. If anyone wants it, it'll be available for download on my site probably within a week - after I program the flights.
http://www.fscommercialpilot.com


peterbradley

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Skycap
Your website doesn't seem to come up any more.
Any change? I was starting to correspond with you, but all of a sudden I can't connect.
Peter (aka trutta)


saad80

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hi i am saad i hope you add me


Skycap

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Sorry all - I got bored with Tower and killed the website.



But, I did finish KPHX so if anyone wants a copy, I can email it to ya.

Drop an email to Airliner@verizon.net
http://www.fscommercialpilot.com


nikus2005

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i need more basic information to create an escenery with bao tower i would be usefull if you could create a manual with images and the list of programs to use
in order to anyone could do it because i dont have the experience in computers to follow the instructions, but with a complete guide to create airports in bao tower i will

PLS HELP
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Skycap

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Hey there!



Okay, I coming out of my bordeom with Tower. :)



Anyway, making airports is easy but, time consuming. All you need is wordpad, notepad, etc. All files are simple text.



Each airport is just a graph of points and lines. I'll have to get back into things a bit before I can recall what each one is in the files but, all you really do is graph out the airport on graph paper; then plot all the intersections and finally, connect all the points. It's basically to the effect of:



P1 = 10,24

P2 = 37,47

L1 = P1,P2

Something like that, where P are the points and L is a line between the points.



The problem is with airports not aligned in a simple east-west or north-south configuration. When I made KPHX, I did it because it would be easy to line everything up - everything is horizontal and vertical, with no fudging for diagnonals.



Anyway, what would be great is an afacd style of editor - where you enter the points on a board and then connect them using the mouse. Then, the program converst them to text entries. Maybe I'll look into that. I'll need to dig through my files first to see how big to make the work space.



After drawing the airport and getting all the points in place, you need to put in parking spaces and aligning the pushback to turn right left or straight for each one. Also, you want to enter in the approach and departure fixes so that aircraft are properly aligned coming in. I did have some difficulty with the audio files; specifically for runway numbers and of course, for additional airlines.



You can even add aircraft as each one is simply a graphic made up of points that make an outline. Anyway, I'll put something together for you. I believe Trutta did a good outline of what everything means in the files - just don't recall where that file is. :P
http://www.fscommercialpilot.com


Skycap

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Okay, I just setup a blank AFCAD2 airport that can be used to design airports for BAO Tower. Here's the thing - the numbers aren't right. I found out that each unit used to plot on the Tower airport represents 1 meter. When set up properly, AFCAD's units corrospond by a mathmatical equation. Simply put, whatever AFCAD has, divide that by 8.983 to get the value to plug into Tower.



For example: you make a 2000 meter run centered at N0 by W0 exactly. Running East to West, this would put the east end at E0.8983 and the west end at W0.8983. You have to have AFCAD setup right to get these values, using the lat/lon config in the tools menu.



Also, set the units to metric, as that's what Tower uses, just to be consistent.

With this arrangement, you can draw out your airport in AFCAD and then do a little math to get the values for Tower. I'm going to try putting together a little program to convert the numbers for you so you just enter them in, point by point from AFCAD and the program converst them and generates the TWR file. you still have to connect the points but that's easy too - just make a hard copy of your AFCAD, label the points and make the segments with the program. Example: S2 = P12 P24.



Then, I'll need to work out the fixes, airlines, etc. I hope to make one generic folder that can be setup as a blank and used to make all airports from. All anyone has to do is design the airport layout, area fixes, etc.
http://www.fscommercialpilot.com


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