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Vernon Balbert

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Nov 23, 2007, 11:42 AM

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Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at landing and
my glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on 10L and this
water tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I was flying a
737 instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the darn thing!

--
A baby is a person who must have bottle or bust.



Frank Stutzman

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Nov 23, 2007, 12:44 PM

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Vernon Balbert <vbalbert@gmail.nospam.com> wrote:
> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
> airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at landing and
> my glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on 10L and this
> water tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I was flying a
> 737 instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the darn thing!

My Bonanza is actually based in Calwell, but I fly in to Boise on
a fairly regular basis. I have never noticed any such water tower.
I think MSFS is once again mis-representing the real world.

--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Boise, ID



"ManhattanMan"

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Nov 23, 2007, 12:51 PM

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Vernon Balbert wrote:
> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside
> the airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at
> landing and my glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on
> 10L and this water tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I
> was flying a 737 instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the
> darn thing!

Just set FS to ignore crashes, and go for it! d:->))
I forget where it was now, but I found one that had a telephone pole in the
middle of the runway..




Dallas

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:08 PM

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:42:19 -0800, Vernon Balbert wrote:

> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
> airport between runways 10L and 10R?

Then there's this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/Dallas52/Screen%20Posting/HoldonRwy35.jpg

--
Dallas



Vernon Balbert

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:15 PM

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On 11/23/2007 9:44 AM, Frank Stutzman went clickity clack on the
keyboard and produced this interesting bit of text:
> Vernon Balbert <vbalbert@gmail.nospam.com> wrote:
>> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
>> airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at landing and
>> my glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on 10L and this
>> water tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I was flying a
>> 737 instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the darn thing!
>
> My Bonanza is actually based in Calwell, but I fly in to Boise on
> a fairly regular basis. I have never noticed any such water tower.
> I think MSFS is once again mis-representing the real world.

I'm so glad to hear that reality does not match the simulation. lol

--
I haven't seen anything like this since the Anita Bryant concert.



"Roger Tango"

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:18 PM

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"Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert@gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
> airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at landing and my
> glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on 10L and this water
> tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I was flying a 737
> instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the darn thing!
>
> --
> A baby is a person who must have bottle or bust.

I could swear that FS likes to put a tree right at the approach end of the
runway too, particularly in airports that are out in the sticks. Although I
do recall a few years ago in RL when flying in a small Cessna on takeoff
that there was a grove of pine trees at the end of the RW and the pilot had
one hand on the wheel and was using the other hand to adjust the air flow
thingy, and meanwhile the stall warning was chirping away merrily. (Perhaps
he was clearing the air because somebody else in the plane was crapping
their pants!)




Vernon Balbert

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:20 PM

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On 11/23/2007 10:18 AM, Roger Tango went clickity clack on the keyboard
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> "Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert@gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LpD1j.1297$AR7.1059@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
>> airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at landing and my
>> glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on 10L and this water
>> tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I was flying a 737
>> instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the darn thing!
>>
>> --
>> A baby is a person who must have bottle or bust.
>
> I could swear that FS likes to put a tree right at the approach end of the
> runway too, particularly in airports that are out in the sticks. Although I
> do recall a few years ago in RL when flying in a small Cessna on takeoff
> that there was a grove of pine trees at the end of the RW and the pilot had
> one hand on the wheel and was using the other hand to adjust the air flow
> thingy, and meanwhile the stall warning was chirping away merrily. (Perhaps
> he was clearing the air because somebody else in the plane was crapping
> their pants!)

Perhaps it's MS's way to let us have the same thrill Lindbergh had on
taking off on his historic flight.

--
The quickest way to a man's heart is with Chuck Norris' fist.



Vernon Balbert

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:21 PM

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On 11/23/2007 10:08 AM, Dallas went clickity clack on the keyboard and
produced this interesting bit of text:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:42:19 -0800, Vernon Balbert wrote:
>
>> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
>> airport between runways 10L and 10R?
>
> Then there's this:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/Dallas52/Screen%20Posting/HoldonRwy35.jpg

Which airport was that and how do you get around that? Turn off crash
detection?

--
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into
the pencils?"



Vernon Balbert

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:22 PM

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On 11/23/2007 9:51 AM, ManhattanMan went clickity clack on the keyboard
and produced this interesting bit of text:
> Vernon Balbert wrote:
>> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside
>> the airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at
>> landing and my glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on
>> 10L and this water tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I
>> was flying a 737 instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the
>> darn thing!
>
> Just set FS to ignore crashes, and go for it! d:->))
> I forget where it was now, but I found one that had a telephone pole in the
> middle of the runway..

From what I'm seeing, I'm not surprised. Gotta save up for UTX.

--
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so Brain, but if you replace the 'P' with an 'O', my name would
be Oinky, wouldn't it?"



Dallas

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Nov 23, 2007, 1:44 PM

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:21:02 GMT, Vernon Balbert wrote:

> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/Dallas52/Screen%20Posting/HoldonRwy35.jpg

> Which airport was that and how do you get around that? Turn off crash
> detection?


No, I configure the aircraft for short take off.


--
Dallas



"TOCA"

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Nov 23, 2007, 3:33 PM

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:42:19 -0800, Vernon Balbert wrote:
>
>> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
>> airport between runways 10L and 10R?
>
> Then there's this:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/Dallas52/Screen%20Posting/HoldonRwy35.jpg
>
> --
> Dallas

Oh yes, seen a couple of those :o/

"Delta 11, please clear the Runway!"
"Not with my propellar I wont!" ;o)

At my home ground EKCH, ther's the Oresund bridge verry close to RW 22, so
when on final for that, you have to stay above 1000ft, untill it's cleared,
and then drop like a stone, to hit the RW, in time to have anny breaking
distance. This is both in FS9.1 and IRL. Taking off from RW 4 is not as bad,
since you can easyly clear the thing, with a climbrate of 1200 or above, or
in a GA, you just turn left, right after takeoff.

Tommy C





"RandyL"

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Nov 24, 2007, 11:17 PM

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Hi Vernon,
KBOI is my home airport. I noticed this water tower too in FSX. It's
pretty annoying, especially because at the distance that it is at in the
sim, the program doesn't display the legs of the tower, so all you really
see is a giant UFO hovering off the end of the runway. In my opinion M$ went
way overboard with the water towers everywhere. Try a flight out of Nampa
Muni, and you will see a bunch more of them.
I installed Flight1's Ultimate Terrain USA X and it got rid of that
water tower. Now the airport looks much closer to what it does in real life.
If you want a great add-on for FSX, then look into Flight 1's Ultimate
Terrain USA X. I am very pleased with it. Take care...

Randy L.
--
"A good landing is one in which you can use the aircraft again."

"Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert@gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Alright, who's bright idea was it to put a water tower just outside the
> airport between runways 10L and 10R? I am not the best at landing and my
> glide paths tend to be rather shallow. I'm landing on 10L and this water
> tower goes right past my starboard wing. Now if I was flying a 737
> instead of a Lear 45, I think I might have hit the darn thing!
>
> --
> A baby is a person who must have bottle or bust.




Arthur Buse

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Nov 25, 2007, 4:59 AM

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RandyL wrote:

> KBOI is my home airport. I noticed this water tower too in FSX. It's
> pretty annoying, especially because at the distance that it is at in the
> sim, the program doesn't display the legs of the tower, so all you really
> see is a giant UFO hovering off the end of the runway. In my opinion M$
> went way overboard with the water towers everywhere. Try a flight out of
> Nampa Muni, and you will see a bunch more of them.
> I installed Flight1's Ultimate Terrain USA X and it got rid of that
> water tower. Now the airport looks much closer to what it does in real
> life. If you want a great add-on for FSX, then look into Flight 1's
> Ultimate Terrain USA X. I am very pleased with it. Take care...

I have FSX with SP1 and the Accelleration Pack. I see no water tower at
KBOI.

--
A.B.




"RandyL"

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Nov 25, 2007, 12:00 PM

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Hi Arthur
I have my autogen scenery set to massive. I'm not sure what Vernon has
his set to. It is one of those oval "new style" water towers that looks like
a UFO. It seemed to go away after I installed UTX, but maybe it went away
after I installed Acceleration. Anyway, it's gone now. Take care...

Randy L.

"Arthur Buse" <spam@zathras.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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> RandyL wrote:
>
>
> I have FSX with SP1 and the Accelleration Pack. I see no water tower at
> KBOI.
>
> --
> A.B.
>



"Ian D"

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Nov 25, 2007, 6:59 PM

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"RandyL" <rlink@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Arthur
> I have my autogen scenery set to massive. I'm not sure what Vernon has
> his set to. It is one of those oval "new style" water towers that looks
> like a UFO. It seemed to go away after I installed UTX, but maybe it went
> away after I installed Acceleration. Anyway, it's gone now. Take care...
>
> Randy L.
>
> "Arthur Buse" <spam@zathras.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:5qsvbqF11lmfpU1@mid.individual.net...
>> RandyL wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have FSX with SP1 and the Accelleration Pack. I see no water tower at
>> KBOI.
>>
>> --
>> A.B.
>>
I only have the default stuff plus Acceleration. It's there, with autogen
at very dense.




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