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"copter.six"

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Nov 9, 2007, 9:51 PM

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Actually I only need to get it running. My Vista crashed and instead of
starting over I want to get XP installed. I have the XP disk, I've installed
and re-installed it but when I try to install it on this computer it goes
through the initial file copying and re-boots to continue the installation.
Problem is, XP starts at the beginning, like I had just inserted the disk.
I have a very basic installation of Vista now just to be able to access my d
drive but I'm not updating a thing. It's just more to do every 6 weeks when
Vista crashes. I tried a backup but as usable, it didn't restore. I have no
luck.....

My copy of Vista was up to date with all updates and it even came back with
a "fix" from MS after I had sent so many messages via their solution box.
That fix worked until I re-booted and my Vista OS was no more.

Any ideas why my legal copy of XP Home won't install? I sure as hell can't
fly FSX on my 2.66GHz machine.

Here's a bunch of error screens I get with Vista on it's way to the
inevatble crash. It's only a few that I thought to capture.

http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07456/vista-crash.jpg

boB

Intel core 2 duo 6600
BFG GeForce 8800GTS 640Mb PCI-Express Vid Card
2Gb Corsair XMS2 dual-channel RAM
WD Raptor10,000 RPM 35Gb SATA Hard Drive
WD Caviar SE 500Gb SATA Hard Drive
Vista Home Premium




raamman@gmail.com

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Nov 9, 2007, 11:09 PM

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On Nov 9, 9:51 pm, "copter.six" <copter.sixXX...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually I only need to get it running. My Vista crashed and instead of
> starting over I want to get XP installed. I have the XP disk, I've installed
> and re-installed it but when I try to install it on this computer it goes
> through the initial file copying and re-boots to continue the installation.
> Problem is, XP starts at the beginning, like I had just inserted the disk.
> I have a very basic installation of Vista now just to be able to access my d
> drive but I'm not updating a thing. It's just more to do every 6 weeks when
> Vista crashes. I tried a backup but as usable, it didn't restore. I have no
> luck.....
>
> My copy of Vista was up to date with all updates and it even came back with
> a "fix" from MS after I had sent so many messages via their solution box.
> That fix worked until I re-booted and my Vista OS was no more.
>
> Any ideas why my legal copy of XP Home won't install? I sure as hell can't
> fly FSX on my 2.66GHz machine.
>
> Here's a bunch of error screens I get with Vista on it's way to the
> inevatble crash. It's only a few that I thought to capture.
>
> http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07456/vista-crash.jpg
>
> boB
>
> Intel core 2 duo 6600
> BFG GeForce 8800GTS 640Mb PCI-Express Vid Card
> 2Gb Corsair XMS2 dual-channel RAM
> WD Raptor10,000 RPM 35Gb SATA Hard Drive
> WD Caviar SE 500Gb SATA Hard Drive
> Vista Home Premium

Sorry to hear of your troubles. tossing vista is a good start. You
will need to format your hard drive to get rid of all the corruption
vista created- do a full format. If that does not work then i would
like to suggest putting in a new hard drive in place of your old;
after you are up and running you can add the old hard drive to augment
your system, there should be less trouble formatting it as a slave.





SORSRR

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Nov 10, 2007, 12:07 AM

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When you start to install XP and you re-start and boot up from the
disk, you will see a message that says 'Hit any key to boot from the
CD.... Of course you will hit a key to boot from the disc.

Installation starts. DO NOT REMOVE THE CD from the drive.

During the install, the computer will reboot at times to refresh the
files, and again you will see 'Hit any key to boot from the CD....
(because the CD is still in the rom). DO NOT HIT ANY KEY! You already
booted once from the CD. Right? The install will continue on it's own.

Leave the CD in until the install is completed, and do whatever you
are instructed on the screen (except 'Press any key to boot from the
CD). Just like click start to shut down???

$

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:51:55 -0800, "copter.six"
<copter.sixXXXXX@gmail.com> wrote:

>Actually I only need to get it running. My Vista crashed and instead of




troppo1

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Nov 10, 2007, 12:41 AM

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Re: Help - need FSX!!!! [In reply to "copter.six"] Not logged in -   Reply 
I have had the same prob twice. Had to install another hard drive and clean the XP Disk to get it to install. Then I reformatted the original drive and re installed XP without probs. Crazy computers but thats how it is sometimes. I havent had Vista ( thank god from what I have read) but I did just take a clean installed XP hard drive out of an MSI neo 4 board and put it on an Asus A7nx8 board and it booted up without any worries, wonders will never cease.
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"copter.six"

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Nov 10, 2007, 4:22 AM

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"SORSRR" <sorsrr@thecastle.com> wrote in message
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> When you start to install XP and you re-start and boot up from the
> disk, you will see a message that says 'Hit any key to boot from the
> CD.... Of course you will hit a key to boot from the disc.
>
> Installation starts. DO NOT REMOVE THE CD from the drive.
>
> During the install, the computer will reboot at times to refresh the
> files, and again you will see 'Hit any key to boot from the CD....
> (because the CD is still in the rom). DO NOT HIT ANY KEY! You already
> booted once from the CD. Right? The install will continue on it's own.
>
> Leave the CD in until the install is completed, and do whatever you
> are instructed on the screen (except 'Press any key to boot from the
> CD). Just like click start to shut down???
>

Thank ssorsrr, That's the way I tried it. Actually I tried all kinds of
ways but what you just wrote was the way I tried in most of the attempts....

I've installed XP before, more than a year ago, and everything worked the
first time. All I know is Vista is toast. I have 2 other computers running
XP and I've never had the problems I have now. It's a shame too, I really
like Vista, just not the problems that come with it.

boB







"copter.six"

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Nov 10, 2007, 4:25 AM

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"troppo1" <troppo1@forums.simradar.com> wrote in message
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>I have had the same prob twice. Had to install another hard drive and
> clean the XP Disk to get it to install. Then I reformatted the original
> drive and re installed XP without probs. Crazy computers but thats how
> it is sometimes. I havent had Vista ( thank god from what I have read)
> but I did just take a clean installed XP hard drive out of an MSI neo 4
> board and put it on an Asus A7nx8 board and it booted up without any
> worries, wonders will never cease.
>

*I've been thinking of buying a fresh hard drive to install XP but don't
know which kind to buy. I just love this computer and when everything is
straightened out I'll be a happy camper. Smile

boB




Pierre

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Nov 10, 2007, 5:13 AM

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Le Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:06:58 -0500, SORSRR <sorsrr@thecastle.com> a
écrit :

>When you start to install XP and you re-start and boot up from the
>disk, you will see a message that says 'Hit any key to boot from the
>CD.... Of course you will hit a key to boot from the disc.
>
>Installation starts. DO NOT REMOVE THE CD from the drive.
>
>During the install, the computer will reboot at times to refresh the
>files, and again you will see 'Hit any key to boot from the CD....
>(because the CD is still in the rom). DO NOT HIT ANY KEY! You already
>booted once from the CD. Right? The install will continue on it's own.
>
>Leave the CD in until the install is completed, and do whatever you
>are instructed on the screen (except 'Press any key to boot from the
>CD). Just like click start to shut down???
>
>$
>
>On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:51:55 -0800, "copter.six"
><copter.sixXXXXX@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Actually I only need to get it running. My Vista crashed and instead of

And when you get the screen about partitions, don't forget to suppress
your c:\ partition (old Vista partition) then recreate a new one and
format it.

Anyway, I've seen you have a 35GB Raptor as system disk. Vista Home
Premium alone is a 25 GB installation, (70% of your disk), by default
Vista uses c:\ for its swap file, that's a 2048/4096 MB file, so your
system disk is, with only your clean Vista installation, full at 85%.
In these conditions, it's perfectly understandable that Vista crashes
with a lot of problem.

For Vista, the minimum system disk or partition is well over 75/80 GB.
For WXP, your Raptor 35 GB is just sufficient.

Hope this helps Smile

Another Pierre LFBE



"copter.six"

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Nov 10, 2007, 5:22 PM

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"Pierre" <pierreDOTneel@wanadooDOTfr> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:06:58 -0500, SORSRR <sorsrr@thecastle.com> a
> écrit :
>
>
> For Vista, the minimum system disk or partition is well over 75/80 GB.
> For WXP, your Raptor 35 GB is just sufficient.
>
> Hope this helps Smile
>
> Another Pierre LFBE



Thanks Pierre. I didn't know that.

boB










C6

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Nov 11, 2007, 3:53 AM

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Pierre wrote:
> Le Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:06:58 -0500, SORSRR <sorsrr@thecastle.com> a
> écrit :
>
>
>
> For Vista, the minimum system disk or partition is well over 75/80 GB.
> For WXP, your Raptor 35 GB is just sufficient.
>
> Hope this helps Smile
>
> Another Pierre LFBE


I had a thought, if I compress that 35G drive, would that help? With
just a fresh Vista install it's taking 18Gig of space and FS9 crashed on
me once already. FSX isn't working right now, the utility I used to
install the registry entries didn't work for FSX but did for FS9.

boB

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C6
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"Ed Medlin"

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Nov 11, 2007, 9:22 AM

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> I had a thought, if I compress that 35G drive, would that help? With just
> a fresh Vista install it's taking 18Gig of space and FS9 crashed on me
> once already. FSX isn't working right now, the utility I used to install
> the registry entries didn't work for FSX but did for FS9.
>
> boB
>
> --
>
> C6
> Copter.Six

No........ Compression is fine for storage of data, but for programs it must
be decompressed every time and it will slow down FSX greatly.

Ed




C6

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Ed Medlin wrote:
>> I had a thought, if I compress that 35G drive, would that help? With just
>> a fresh Vista install it's taking 18Gig of space and FS9 crashed on me
>> once already. FSX isn't working right now, the utility I used to install
>> the registry entries didn't work for FSX but did for FS9.
>>
>> boB
>>
>> --
>>
>> C6
>> Copter.Six
>
> No........ Compression is fine for storage of data, but for programs it must
> be decompressed every time and it will slow down FSX greatly.
>
> Ed
>
>

The only thing I have on the C Drive is Vista. Both FS9 and FSX are
located on the D Drive.

Does that help any?

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"Ed Medlin"

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Nov 12, 2007, 6:54 AM

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"C6" <copter.six@XXXgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ed Medlin wrote:
>>> I had a thought, if I compress that 35G drive, would that help? With
>>> just a fresh Vista install it's taking 18Gig of space and FS9 crashed on
>>> me once already. FSX isn't working right now, the utility I used to
>>> install the registry entries didn't work for FSX but did for FS9.
>>>
>>> boB
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> C6
>>> Copter.Six
>>
>> No........ Compression is fine for storage of data, but for programs it
>> must be decompressed every time and it will slow down FSX greatly.
>>
>> Ed
>
> The only thing I have on the C Drive is Vista. Both FS9 and FSX are
> located on the D Drive.
>
> Does that help any?
>
> --
>
> C6
> Copter.Six

With the exception of just storage and backup I would never recommend
compressing a drive. The constant decompressing and recompressing would
cause a huge slowdown in access time. You seem to be really obsessed with
using that Raptor, but the performance difference between it and a regular
16meg cache WD drive of a larger size is minimal and would probably not be
noticed much at all. Compressing it would make it slower than any
uncompressed drive out there. Most of today's HDDs are fairly reliable and
fast and, for my use (4X 500gb WD Satas) the extra heat and noise of
Raptors, even if I could get them in sizes I need, would be impractical. For
games and photo/video editing I use Raid-0 for the speed but use single
drives for storage of important data (backup regularly) and I have no
performance issues at all. I have a couple of Raptors sitting in my parts
bin now that I just don't like because the high-pitched noise just irritates
me and I will use them in a build sometime for someone who just has to have
them...........Smile. I run FSX on a Q6600 @ 3.35Ghz with 2X 8800GTX cards in
SLI on a 1TB Raid-0 array and it runs very well and smooth and I have very
few slowdowns even in the dense sceneries. I use XP Pro because of all the
problems I have had with Vista and SLI among several other smaller issues
with the OS. XP just works.


Ed




"copter.six"

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"Ed Medlin" <ed@edmedlin.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
> With the exception of just storage and backup I would never recommend
> compressing a drive. The constant decompressing and recompressing would
> cause a huge slowdown in access time. You seem to be really obsessed with
> using that Raptor, but the performance difference between it and a regular
> 16meg cache WD drive of a larger size is minimal and would probably not be
> noticed much at all. Compressing it would make it slower than any
> uncompressed drive out there. Most of today's HDDs are fairly reliable and


I'm not really obsessed with the Raptor, I was just asking if it could be
used at all in different configurations. I don't even know what type of
hard drive I need to order, the connectors to my current hard drives are
different than any of my older computer hard drives.


> fast and, for my use (4X 500gb WD Satas) the extra heat and noise of
> Raptors, even if I could get them in sizes I need, would be impractical.
> For games and photo/video editing I use Raid-0 for the speed but use
> single drives for storage of important data (backup regularly) and I have
> no performance issues at all. I have a couple of Raptors sitting in my
> parts bin now that I just don't like because the high-pitched noise just
> irritates me and I will use them in a build sometime for someone who just
> has to have them...........Smile. I run FSX on a Q6600 @ 3.35Ghz with 2X
> 8800GTX cards in SLI on a 1TB Raid-0 array and it runs very well and
> smooth and I have very few slowdowns even in the dense sceneries. I use XP
> Pro because of all the problems I have had with Vista and SLI among
> several other smaller issues with the OS. XP just works.
>
>
> Ed
>

I tried again to install XP on the hard drive. All it did was require me to
re-install Vista. I don't know what's wrong and I'm about to throw the whole
thing out. Every day I get at the least, 3 blue screens for no apparent
reason. FSX looks like a kids toy with it's blocky graphics so I'm back to
flying FS9, which works great until it freezes and displays the message
that" Flight Simulator has stopped working" Even as dumb as I am I can
figure out that FS isn't working any longer, I don't need a message. Smile
Or when the blue screen tells me it was a hardware problem that stopped
Vista/FS9.

My old P4 2.66GHz machine with a Ti-4200/128 video card runs FSX showing
better graphics that this thing, just a bit slower.

But I thank everyone for the replies and advice.....

boB







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