"Chuck C."
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Is comprehension a problem for you? I'm responding to:
"You wanted Iraq to be democratic. Fine, now the majority seems to want
you out of there. Be a sport and do as you're asked."
Even your quote doesn't suggest that, except at some unspecified time in
the future, and one might assume when an adequate Iraqi constitution and
government has been set up.
Feel free to salt that.
Chuck
Whistler <whistle@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in
news:4g1lqvcb9a9o5a7r83uf70ob9bneivr9ka@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:22:55 -0600, "Chuck C." <nonyabiz@all.com>
> wrote:
>
>>JAB van Ree <no.spam@vanree.net> wrote in
>>news:7_Lpb.857$%W3.1419@amstwist00:
>>
>>> You wanted Iraq to be democratic. Fine, now the majority seems to
>>> want you out of there. Be a sport and do as you're asked.
>>>
>>
>>Do you like your crow with or without gravy???
>>
>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99949,00.html
>>
>>Chuck
>
> From a Zogby poll quoted by Cheney on 'Meet the Press':
>
> http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=33984&d=22&m=10&y=
200
> 3 <quote>
> For example, while Cheney noted that when asked what kind of
> government they would like, Iraqis chose “the US... hands down,” in
> fact, the results of the poll are actually quite different.
> Twenty-three percent of Iraqis say that they would like to model their
> new government after the US; 17.5 percent would like their model to be
> Saudi Arabia; 12 percent say Syria, 7 percent say Egypt and 37 percent
> say “none of the above.” That’s hardly “winning hands down.”
>
> When given the choice as to whether they “would like to see the
> American and British forces leave Iraq in six months, one year, or two
> years,” 31.5 percent of Iraqis say these forces should leave in six
> months; 34 percent say a year, and only 25 percent say two or more
> years.
>
> So while technically Cheney might say that “over 60 percent (actually
> it’s 59 percent) ... want the US to stay at least another year,” an
> equally correct observation would be that 65.5 percent want the US and
> Britain to leave in one year or less.
>
> Other numbers found in the poll go further to dampen the vice
> president’s and the AEI’s rosy interpretations. For example, when
> asked if “democracy can work well in Iraq,” 51 percent said “no; it is
> a Western way of doing things and will not work here.”
>
> And attitudes toward the US were not positive. When asked whether over
> the next five years, they felt that the “US would help or hurt Iraq,”
> 50 percent said that the US would hurt Iraq, while only 35.5 percent
> felt the US would help the country. On the other hand, 61 percent of
> Iraqis felt that Saudi Arabia would help Iraq in the next five years,
> as opposed to only 7.5 percent, who felt Saudi Arabia would hurt their
> country. Some 50.5 percent felt that the United Nations would help
> Iraq, while 18.5 percent felt it would hurt. Iran’s rating was very
> close to the US’, with 53.5 percent of Iraqis saying Iran would hurt
> them in the next five years, while only 21.5 percent felt that Iran
> might help them.
>
> ....
>
> • Over 55 percent give a negative rating to “how the US military is
> dealing with Iraqi civilians.” Only 20 percent gave the US military a
> positive rating.
>
> • By a margin of 57 percent to 38.5 percent, Iraqis indicate that they
> would support “Arab forces” providing security in their country.
>
> • When asked how they would describe the attacks on the US military,
> 49 percent described them as “resistance operations.” Only 29 percent
> saw them as attacks by “Baath loyalists.”
>
> • When asked whom they preferred to “provide security and restore
> order in their country,” only 6.5 percent said the US. Twenty-seven
> percent said the US and the UN together, 14.5 percent preferred only
> the UN. And the largest group, 45 percent, said they would prefer the
> “Iraqi military” to do the job alone.
>
> </quote>
>
> I think you are the one who should be chowin' down on crow.
>
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