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Boogie

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Apr 29, 2004, 5:55 AM

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HI,
sorry to be an A-HOLE...any on that tells ya its because it doesnt like
Radeon chips is just plain mad.....Try getting a set of drivers about 1
yr or 1 and a half yrs old for your Radeon card and then try the game.
Dont use drivers that are optimized for DX8 or 9..Jetfighter is an old
game and requires old drivers(believe it or not)i had the same
problem.....Good luck!!
Boogie
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IL-2 & AEP Squadron
Excellent training program and lots of fun!!!


"Ken Morano"

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Apr 29, 2004, 3:51 PM

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Boogie,
Back when http://www.jetfighteriv.com/ was an active site. I visited the
forum often to find a solution to the incompatibility of JF4 and my ATI
Radeon 9700 Pro Card. There were many posts complaining about the problem.
There were a few posts identifying the "secondary monitor" solution. Ther
was not a single post offering a solution through the use of different video
drivers.

So sorry about my confusing choice of words, but the spirit of my message
still seems valid. JF4 hates :) Radeon Cards.

JF5 works okay with my Radeon but that's another topic....

"Boogie" <Boogie@forums_no_reply> wrote in message
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> HI,
> sorry to be an A-HOLE...any on that tells ya its because it doesnt like
> Radeon chips is just plain mad.....Try getting a set of drivers about 1
> yr or 1 and a half yrs old for your Radeon card and then try the game.
> Dont use drivers that are optimized for DX8 or 9..Jetfighter is an old
> game and requires old drivers(believe it or not)i had the same
> problem.....Good luck!!
>
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Spook

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Nov 28, 2004, 4:23 PM

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what is up with al of the bugs in this game. I feel i have to finesh the
sofe creation that the so called devs started. I like they put in stores a
hafe completed game. I have XP pro and i followed everything that
was put ou to make the game worked and still nothing. I bought it in
target which was my most biggest mistake cause i cant get my money
back only store credit. my money back is all i want from this game.
I hope that JF5 is a real game, you know, one that I can accully play.
Spook


"Steph"

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Nov 28, 2004, 7:34 PM

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"Spook" <Spook@forums_no_reply> wrote in message
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> what is up with al of the bugs in this game. I feel i have to finesh the
> sofe creation that the so called devs started. I like they put in stores a
> hafe completed game. I have XP pro and i followed everything that
> was put ou to make the game worked and still nothing. I bought it in
> target which was my most biggest mistake cause i cant get my money
> back only store credit. my money back is all i want from this game.
> I hope that JF5 is a real game, you know, one that I can accully play.
> Spook
>
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Education is a wonderful thing...........




"Kasey Chang \(remove EATSPAM to reply\)"

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Nov 29, 2004, 12:47 AM

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"Spook" <Spook@forums_no_reply> wrote in message
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> what is up with al of the bugs in this game. I feel i have to finesh
the
> sofe creation that the so called devs started. I like they put in
stores a
> hafe completed game. I have XP pro and i followed everything that
> was put ou to make the game worked and still nothing. I bought it in
> target which was my most biggest mistake cause i cant get my money
> back only store credit. my money back is all i want from this game.
> I hope that JF5 is a real game, you know, one that I can accully play.

Short answer: JF4 is designed for Win98 and was never tested on XP.
Talonsoft went the way of the dodo so you don't have any support left
either. There were some Hotfixes that seem to mess up JF4 on XP,
but some people got it to run okay, and others don't.

--KC




rottenberg

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Nov 29, 2004, 3:28 PM

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Spook <Spook@forums_no_reply> wrote in message news:<1101677027.24449@server2.simradar.com>...
> what is up with al of the bugs in this game. I feel i have to finesh the
> sofe creation that the so called devs started. I like they put in stores a
> hafe completed game. I have XP pro and i followed everything that
> was put ou to make the game worked and still nothing. I bought it in
> target which was my most biggest mistake cause i cant get my money
> back only store credit. my money back is all i want from this game.
> I hope that JF5 is a real game, you know, one that I can accully play.
> Spook
>
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Why even bother? Even according to its specs, this was never a
groundbreaking flight sim. I remember the first two JF games. The
first one seemed groundbreaking because it was one of my first VGA
games. Repetitve game play and not-very realistic gameplay, boring
scenery, a suspect scenario - I mean what is it that you want?


"Mitch_A"

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Nov 29, 2004, 4:54 PM

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The scenario was the best part of the JF series. Attack the US in Cali from
Mexico. Hell I live in California and sometimes I wonder if it isnt
actually happening right under our noses now :-)

Mitch


"rottenberg" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
because it was one of my first VGA
> games. Repetitve game play and not-very realistic gameplay, boring
> scenery, a suspect scenario - I mean what is it that you want?




rottenberg

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Nov 30, 2004, 9:58 AM

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Again, I was speaking about the first 2 games. Even though they were
set in California, the scenery was so sparse that - except for LA &
SF, you might as well be anywhere. Also, even while in the game, it's
hard to get any more than a bare sense of a war going on under yoru
noses - buildings that are enemy targets, smaller boxes meant to be
trucks, no more obvious targets like SAM sites or hostile MiGs parked
on airbases. This easily became the most dated sim with the release
of "Falcon 3.0". It didn't help that they (like me) picked the YF-23
to win the ATF competition, only to see it lose a few months (was it
that long) later. Even so, the addition of the F-23 added little if
anything to the game (it was nifty, if possibly unrealistic to get
bumped when passing through mach-1, and cooler now that you could do
that w/o using afterburner, but most missions were so short that fuel
was seldom an issue). In the end, the game was fun for carrier
trapping and flying under SF's bridges, but even that got old fast.

"Mitch_A" <naman-nospam@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<zUMqd.51674$QJ3.23006@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
> The scenario was the best part of the JF series. Attack the US in Cali from
> Mexico. Hell I live in California and sometimes I wonder if it isnt
> actually happening right under our noses now :-)
>
> Mitch
>
>
> "rottenberg" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> because it was one of my first VGA
> > games. Repetitve game play and not-very realistic gameplay, boring
> > scenery, a suspect scenario - I mean what is it that you want?


Spook

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Nov 30, 2004, 3:59 PM

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Short answer: JF4 is designed for Win98 and was never tested on XP.
Talonsoft went the way of the dodo so you don't have any support left
either. There were some Hotfixes that seem to mess up JF4 on XP,
but some people got it to run okay, and others don't.

--KC
Well for give me for being tricked then. cause as i type this to you in
reply i am reading on the cover as i did in the store before i bought it,
compable with windows95/98&Xp. It is on the back of the CD plastic
case. Like i said i got it home and found out that that is not the case.
It should say compable with xp only if you know how to modifiy your
ini files and maybe even then it wont work. I could have use the
money to bye some other flightsim. thats my point. I love the fact
that i come to this forum looking for a fix only to find out after i
bought this crap that it was never ment to play on Xp.
well i just made a three point shot into the trash can hooah.
Spook


Larry Roberts

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Posted on:
Dec 4, 2004, 7:55 AM

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On 29 Nov 2004 12:28:37 -0800, robynari@juno.com (rottenberg) wrote:

>Spook <Spook@forums_no_reply> wrote in message news:<1101677027.24449@server2.simradar.com>...
>> what is up with al of the bugs in this game. I feel i have to finesh the
>> sofe creation that the so called devs started. I like they put in stores a
>> hafe completed game. I have XP pro and i followed everything that
>> was put ou to make the game worked and still nothing. I bought it in
>> target which was my most biggest mistake cause i cant get my money
>> back only store credit. my money back is all i want from this game.
>> I hope that JF5 is a real game, you know, one that I can accully play.
>> Spook
>>
>> _______________________________________________________
>> Message posted via the Flight Simulation Forums at www.simradar.com
>> SimRadar.com - Search Engine, Downloads, Videos, News and more
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>Why even bother? Even according to its specs, this was never a
>groundbreaking flight sim. I remember the first two JF games. The
>first one seemed groundbreaking because it was one of my first VGA
>games. Repetitve game play and not-very realistic gameplay, boring
>scenery, a suspect scenario - I mean what is it that you want?


This is not the point though. It's how they say it is
compatable with said OS, and it never worked to begin with. I also
have this game, and found it to not work under WinXP as well. I had to
setup an extra PC with Win98SE.
Even though it's not a serious sim, it is however a fun "light
sim". For users who are not into reading 300 page flight manuals to
just get down the runway, this is a nice flight sim still.


Larry Roberts

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Dec 4, 2004, 8:07 AM

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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:23:47 -0600, Spook <Spook@forums_no_reply>
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>what is up with al of the bugs in this game. I feel i have to finesh the
>sofe creation that the so called devs started. I like they put in stores a
>hafe completed game. I have XP pro and i followed everything that
>was put ou to make the game worked and still nothing. I bought it in
>target which was my most biggest mistake cause i cant get my money
>back only store credit. my money back is all i want from this game.
>I hope that JF5 is a real game, you know, one that I can accully play.
>Spook
>
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I have this sim, and my copy says it's supposed to be WinXP
compatable as well, but that's not the case. I have an extra PC here,
so I setup Win98SE on it to play this, and other games that refuse to
run under WinXP.
As for JF5, I have it as well. It runs fine under WinXP, but
it is not as good as JF4. I think a different developer made it, and
it has a cheap feel to it. The multiplayer patch doesn't have an
internet server browser like JF4 does, so finding online games is
reduced to emailing, IRC, or IM people to setup games.
As a side note. I have another game called Red Jets. Both JF5,
and Red Jets are the same game, except there are different jets to
fly, and the scenerios are different. JF5: America is good guys. Red
Jets: Russia is good guys, America is bad. Other than that, the games
are the same. Pretty cheesy. :(


Sting-USA

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Posted on:
Jun 23, 2005, 6:16 PM

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Hi,
JetFighter IV is an imperfect game. It was released incomplete and never finished. What there is of JF4, is simply "The most FUN" and easiest to learn flight sim ever. Without exception!

Many of the "Bugs" mentioned have been addressed and resolved by users.

The overwhelming majority of JF4 customers are operational with "no adjustments" at all! A small percentage of JF4 systems require minor "Tweaking." Toward that end, we have created a WinXP/JF4 "How-To" article guide users through. 99% of the users that DO require tweaking get operational by completing just the first 2 suggestions on the page! There is a whole page of WinXP tips to help those that are suffering from "additional issues." Here is a link to the page.

http://www.JF4.US Hope this helps. Hope to see you soon "in the air."
Best Regards,
Steve "Sting-USA"


Sting-USA

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http://www.jf4.UShttp://www.e-team-usa.org/faq/XP/XPFix2a.html


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