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Dallas

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Nov 24, 2007, 2:55 PM

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Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".

It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
name.

The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted in
calling it the Viper.

I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".

The name "Viper" is not a cute derogatory nickname, it's an effort to
rename the aircraft that has been so successful that some people think
"Viper" is the aircraft's real name.

I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
aircraft named after some snake!"


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Mxsmanic

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Nov 24, 2007, 3:19 PM

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Dallas writes:

> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
> aircraft named after some snake!"

Hmm ... explain Habu, then.



Dudley Henriques

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Nov 24, 2007, 3:21 PM

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Dallas wrote:
> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>
> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
> name.
>
> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
> from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted in
> calling it the Viper.
>
> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".
>
> The name "Viper" is not a cute derogatory nickname, it's an effort to
> rename the aircraft that has been so successful that some people think
> "Viper" is the aircraft's real name.
>
> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
> aircraft named after some snake!"
>
>
You might not agree with it, but to do away with the Viper moniker you
will have to take on every fighter pilot in the Air Force. The guys
themselves gave the bird it's callsign and it will take an atom bomb to
change it. No self respecting fighter pilot I know anyway, would even
consider telling someone he flies a "Fighting Falcon" Smile)
Nope, it's the Viper and believe me, it will stay the Viper Smile)


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Dudley Henriques



"Loek"

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Nov 24, 2007, 3:25 PM

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Man,

Do I agree!!!!!!!! Thanks Dallas.

Loek

(ret'rd F-16)

"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> schreef in bericht
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>
> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>
> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
> name.
>
> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
> from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted
> in
> calling it the Viper.
>
> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".
>
> The name "Viper" is not a cute derogatory nickname, it's an effort to
> rename the aircraft that has been so successful that some people think
> "Viper" is the aircraft's real name.
>
> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
> aircraft named after some snake!"
>
>
> --
> Dallas




Dudley Henriques

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Nov 24, 2007, 3:52 PM

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Loek wrote:
> Man,
>
> Do I agree!!!!!!!! Thanks Dallas.
>
> Loek
>
> (ret'rd F-16)
>
> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> schreef in bericht
> news:3b2t586nhfp7$.ersg0n0mf8w9.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>>
>> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
>> name.
>>
>> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
>> from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted
>> in
>> calling it the Viper.
>>
>> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
>> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".
>>
>> The name "Viper" is not a cute derogatory nickname, it's an effort to
>> rename the aircraft that has been so successful that some people think
>> "Viper" is the aircraft's real name.
>>
>> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
>> aircraft named after some snake!"
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dallas
>
>

Well...........ALMOST every fighter pilot anyway Smile))

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Dallas

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Nov 24, 2007, 3:56 PM

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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:21:00 -0500, Dudley Henriques wrote:

> No self respecting fighter pilot I know anyway, would even
> consider telling someone he flies a "Fighting Falcon" Smile)

Given Loek's response below you'll need to rephrase that to: "No self
respecting *U.S.A.F.* fighter pilot..."

Smile)
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"Loek"

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Nov 24, 2007, 4:01 PM

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Hi Dudley,

Here's one. But to be honest, in Europe you may hear both. Personally I
prefer Falcon, but everybody is free to use Viper if he/she so wishes. No
big deal as far as I know.

Loek

"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@rcn.com> schreef in bericht
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> Dallas wrote:
>> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>>
>> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
>> name.
>>
>> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
>> from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted
>> in
>> calling it the Viper.
>>
>> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
>> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog". The name "Viper"
>> is not a cute derogatory nickname, it's an effort to
>> rename the aircraft that has been so successful that some people think
>> "Viper" is the aircraft's real name.
>>
>> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
>> aircraft named after some snake!"
>>
>>
> You might not agree with it, but to do away with the Viper moniker you
> will have to take on every fighter pilot in the Air Force. The guys
> themselves gave the bird it's callsign and it will take an atom bomb to
> change it. No self respecting fighter pilot I know anyway, would even
> consider telling someone he flies a "Fighting Falcon" Smile)
> Nope, it's the Viper and believe me, it will stay the Viper Smile)
>
>
> --
> Dudley Henriques




"ManhattanMan"

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Nov 24, 2007, 4:08 PM

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Dallas wrote:

>
> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".
>


How bout "Slug" for the C-150? Smile




Dudley Henriques

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Nov 24, 2007, 4:09 PM

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Dallas wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:21:00 -0500, Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
>> No self respecting fighter pilot I know anyway, would even
>> consider telling someone he flies a "Fighting Falcon" Smile)
>
> Given Loek's response below you'll need to rephrase that to: "No self
> respecting *U.S.A.F.* fighter pilot..."
>
> Smile)

I have to admit, you did get a vote there!! Smile) I must now humbly
"adjust" my all inclusive remark to include only the United States. If
we get a Viper driver from the US to fly on this with you and Loek, I
will silently retreat off into the yard and do yard work accompanied by
halerious laughter from Texas, Europe, and the kitchen upstairs!
PLEASE Air Force, don't make me do yard work!!!

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Dallas

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Nov 24, 2007, 4:26 PM

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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:09:17 -0500, Dudley Henriques wrote:

> PLEASE Air Force, don't make me do yard work!!!

Smile


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Dallas

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Nov 24, 2007, 4:34 PM

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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:08:52 -0600, ManhattanMan wrote:

> How bout "Slug" for the C-150? Smile

How about Aardvark for the F-111?

Go figure... such an ugly name for one of the more aesthetically beautiful
aircraft ever made.

That nickname actually became their official name.

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Simon Robbins

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Nov 24, 2007, 9:05 PM

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Dallas wrote:
> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>
> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
> name.
>
> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO.

I always thought the name "Fighting Falcon" sounded a bit daft. Just
"Falcon" I could understand, but the "Fighting" bit in front seemed
superfluous, like perhaps the aircraft was a bit camp and people needed
to be persuaded that it actually had teeth.

Also, Falcons aren't very aggressive or assertive birds. In truth they
don't really live up to their perceived reputations, a bit like piranha
fish. They're highly strung and timid birds, and will often abort an
attack on anything that might possibly represent a slight danger to
them. A few damaged feathers or a tiny injury can prevent a falcon from
flying, as can rain, which is ironic I guess for an all weather fighter
aircraft! Smile

Eagles are much more beligerent, but I guess that name's taken.

Si



"Dave Ward"

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message news:3b2t586nhfp7$.ersg0n0mf8w9.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>
> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
> name.
>
> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
> from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted in
> calling it the Viper.
>
> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".
>

About a decade ago, when I was around them, we called them "Lawn Darts".
I guess that wasn't the lovable, derogatory name they were looking for.

Dave




"P & H Macguire"

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"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dallas writes:
>
>> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
>> aircraft named after some snake!"
>
> Hmm ... explain Habu, then.




"Jay Williams"

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Geez, Dally... I'm sorry...

I used to play Falcon 3.0 years ago and a guy named Pete Bonani (or
something similar) was Spectrum Holobyte's expert on the F-16... He called
it "the Viper" in the manual as well as in a training video called "Art of
the Kill" as well as some BBS posts. I guess it stuck with me.

"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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>
> Stop calling the F-16 the "Viper".
>
> It's dumb. It never has been and will never will be the aircraft's real
> name.
>
> The F-16 is the "Fighting Falcon", a fine name IMHO. The name Viper came
> from some pilots from Hill AFB who lost the naming contest but persisted
> in
> calling it the Viper.
>
> I think it's cute when pilots give their aircraft a relevant, slightly
> derogatory nickname like "Buff", "Thud" or "Warthog".
>
> The name "Viper" is not a cute derogatory nickname, it's an effort to
> rename the aircraft that has been so successful that some people think
> "Viper" is the aircraft's real name.
>
> I agree with the Generals who named the aircraft, "We didn't want an
> aircraft named after some snake!"
>
>
> --
> Dallas




Dallas

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:12:23 -0600, Jay Williams wrote:

> Geez, Dally... I'm sorry...

Not to worry, I'm just having a spot of fun...
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Dallas

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:05:33 +0000, Simon Robbins wrote:

> I always thought the name "Fighting Falcon" sounded a bit daft.

Well, they added the "Fighting" part because Dassault already used the
stand alone name "Falcon".

They didn't want any confusion about the F-16 being French.

Oh, I take that back... I guess the French are our friends this year.

Smile

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"Chris McMartin"

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:05:33 +0000, Simon Robbins wrote:
>
>> I always thought the name "Fighting Falcon" sounded a bit daft.
>
> Well, they added the "Fighting" part because Dassault already used the
> stand alone name "Falcon".
>
> They didn't want any confusion about the F-16 being French.

It was named "Fighting Falcon" after the US Air Force Academy's mascot.

(I'm back from overseas, lots of posts to catch up on)



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"Chris McMartin"

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> Chris McMartin wrote:
>> It was named "Fighting Falcon" after the US Air Force Academy's mascot.
>>
>> (I'm back from overseas, lots of posts to catch up on)
>
> I thought it was from the local high school's football team?

They are the "Kadets" (Air Academy High School).



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Simon Robbins

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Chris McMartin wrote:
> It was named "Fighting Falcon" after the US Air Force Academy's mascot.
>
> (I'm back from overseas, lots of posts to catch up on)

I thought it was from the local high school's football team?

Si



Simon Robbins

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Chris McMartin wrote:
> They are the "Kadets" (Air Academy High School).

Oh yeah. I forgot about those military school places over there. (Odd
concept if you ask me... Smile)

Si



"Chris McMartin"

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> Chris McMartin wrote:
>> They are the "Kadets" (Air Academy High School).
>
> Oh yeah. I forgot about those military school places over there. (Odd
> concept if you ask me... Smile)

Well, Air Academy High isn't a "military school" in the commonly-thought-of
sense of the term. It is simply the on-base school for the children of the
military members who work at the Air Force Academy (the support personnel,
not the Academy cadets themselves, who are forbidden to be married or have
dependent children).



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