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Martin S.

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Nov 12, 2007, 12:26 PM

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I seem to have stumped the readers of the AVSIM forums with this.
Sometimes (often ??) you folk here do much better! The question came
up because of 'missing' entries in EditVoicePack. This is the crux of
my post.....................

Why do many entries for atc_type in the aircraft.cfg file mix bold and
small case letters? I've noticed this, for years in fact, but never
really understood why this is done, or bothered to ask. For instance:

atc_type=BOeiNg

I am sure that there must be some good reason for the upper and lower
case combinations. Nearly all my aircraft.cfg files show variations
like this (BoEinG -- BOEinG etc.). Moreover, if you buy and install
FSHotSFX (wouldn't fly without it!), the programme makes entries to
the aircraft.cfg files, like this:

OldName=BOEING
NewName=BOeINg

FSHotSFX can't be doing that for nothing... Maybe there needs to be a
unique atc_type entry for each a/c model installed (if so, why?), but
I didn't know entries in what is basically a text file could be case
sensitive.

Hope someone can explain exactly (or even approximately) what the
issue is here.

Thanks,

Martin

(SORRY IF THIS THREAD COMES UP MORE THAN ONCE - HAVING SOME PROBLEMS
POSTING)



"RandyL"

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Nov 12, 2007, 4:35 PM

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Hi Martin,
I am certainly no expert, and this is just a guess, but it may be
spelled this way because some 3rd-party ATC utilities (like AI Smooth,
EditVoicePack, etc.) take this atc_type definition, reads it, and uses a
voice synthisizer to "read back" what it thinks the aircraft type is. By
spelling the atc type in certain ways, whatever program is reading it may do
a better job of pronouncing the name correctly phonetically than if the name
is simply spelled "...Boeing." I know that when I was fooling around with
voice synthesis on the the Commodore Amiga and the PC, I would sometimes
have to spell a word a certain way or capitalize certain letters in order
for the computer to pronounce that word correctly. Or, I could be completely
wrong, it has been known to happen. Take care...

Randy L.
--
Remember: Any landing that you can walk away from,
is a landing that you can be fined, sued, or prosecuted for.

"Martin S." <ms@ms> wrote in message
news:k33hj3dcpd6han92n27u6oaprjgidk81i7@4ax.com...
>I seem to have stumped the readers of the AVSIM forums with this.
> Sometimes (often ??) you folk here do much better! The question came
> up because of 'missing' entries in EditVoicePack. This is the crux of
> my post.....................
>
> Why do many entries for atc_type in the aircraft.cfg file mix bold and
> small case letters? I've noticed this, for years in fact, but never
> really understood why this is done, or bothered to ask. For instance:
>
> atc_type=BOeiNg
>
> I am sure that there must be some good reason for the upper and lower
> case combinations. Nearly all my aircraft.cfg files show variations
> like this (BoEinG -- BOEinG etc.). Moreover, if you buy and install
> FSHotSFX (wouldn't fly without it!), the programme makes entries to
> the aircraft.cfg files, like this:
>
> OldName=BOEING
> NewName=BOeINg
>
> FSHotSFX can't be doing that for nothing... Maybe there needs to be a
> unique atc_type entry for each a/c model installed (if so, why?), but
> I didn't know entries in what is basically a text file could be case
> sensitive.
>
> Hope someone can explain exactly (or even approximately) what the
> issue is here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin
>
> (SORRY IF THIS THREAD COMES UP MORE THAN ONCE - HAVING SOME PROBLEMS
> POSTING)




Martin S.

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Posted on:
Nov 12, 2007, 7:25 PM

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Randy, Good idea, but I don't think this can be the reason, as I am
sure EVP etc. use pre-created (or user created) wav files for the
sounds, rather than any kind of text-to-speech software to read the
aircraft.cfg files.

If I am wrong on this, someone will doubtless correct me!

Thanks,

Martin

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:35:24 -0700, "RandyL" <rlink@cableone.net>
wrote:

>Hi Martin,
> I am certainly no expert, and this is just a guess, but it may be
>spelled this way because some 3rd-party ATC utilities (like AI Smooth,
>EditVoicePack, etc.) take this atc_type definition, reads it, and uses a
>voice synthisizer to "read back" what it thinks the aircraft type is. By
>spelling the atc type in certain ways, whatever program is reading it may do
>a better job of pronouncing the name correctly phonetically than if the name
>is simply spelled "...Boeing." I know that when I was fooling around with
>voice synthesis on the the Commodore Amiga and the PC, I would sometimes
>have to spell a word a certain way or capitalize certain letters in order
>for the computer to pronounce that word correctly. Or, I could be completely
>wrong, it has been known to happen. Take care...
>
>Randy L.




Gypsy Baron

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Posted on:
Nov 12, 2007, 7:40 PM

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Martin S. wrote:
>
> Randy, Good idea, but I don't think this can be the reason, as I am
> sure EVP etc. use pre-created (or user created) wav files for the
> sounds, rather than any kind of text-to-speech software to read the
> aircraft.cfg files.
>
> If I am wrong on this, someone will doubtless correct me!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin

You are correct Martin. EVP uses the text as a "pointer"
or ident for a voice file phrase.

I haven't used EVP sine FS9, quite some time ago, and
don't recall if these text ID's were case senstive or not.
The use of mixed cases would tend to indicate that they
are case sensitive.

Paul



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